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Hi Niels,
indeed the explanation is exactly as Laurent says. The effect of the bug
in the n-body topological trigger lines is basically dropping prompt
events with more than one PV (IPCHI2<16), which becomes worse as a
function of n. If we wouldn't have the OR in the topo lines, the effect
would be indeed catastrophic, but also probably detected already during
2015. For 2018 data-taking, the functor will be removed from the trigger
lines. We'd probably do the same for the Stripping if the users agree.
Cheers
On 10/04/18 17:21, Laurent Dufour wrote:
> Hi Niels,
>
> Indeed. 10% of the events are not saved.
>
> The effect would be much worse if the IP-OR was not there. For a calibration line for example, I do not have this OR in there. My difference is approximately 250% (I’m sensitive to combinatorics), for example.
>
> Cheers,
> Laurent
>
>> On 10 Apr 2018, at 17:10, Niels Tuning <h71(a)nikhef.nl> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Carlos,
>>
>> Thanks for the info!! What a nightmare...
>>
>> I don't understand one thing from Olli's slides: he says that about 10% of the 3-body topo events are affected? What does he mean?
>> That 10% of the events are not selected in the trigger?
>>
>> But you told me that the OR with a displacement requirement probably saves many events?
>> (AALLSAMEBPV(-1, -1, -1) | (AMINCHILD(MIPCHI2DV(PRIMARY)) > 16)
>>
>> How can I reconcile these two statements?
>>
>> Cheers & thanks! Niels
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 10 Apr 2018, Carlos Vázquez Sierra wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> as you probably know there is a bug in one of the LoKi functors (only affecting Run-2 data & MC), namely AALLSAMEBPV.
>>> Olli has presented today the topic at the Tuesday meeting:
>>>
>>> https://indico.cern.ch/event/715191/contributions/2960112/attachments/16301…
>>>
>>> In case you have worked in a Run-2 analysis, please check if you have used this functor explicitly in your selection. If yes, your results might be affected.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> --
>>> Carlos Vázquez Sierra
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