Hi Niels,
My couple of cents.
- The dataset used (2011+2012 / 3fb-1) is never mentioned besides in the abstract.
- l.81 ‘to avoid biases’. you mean to check for overtraining?
- l.98 Do you constrain the tails of the 2xCB? It seems a bit overly modelled for such a low signal yield. Wouldn’t a single Gauss do the job?
- chap.4: What shape do you use for the combinatorial background?
- l.110 fix ‘<‘ and ‘>’ in latex
- l.120 ‘aforementioned samples’: you only mention the PID D* sample, what sample do you use to correct the tracking efficiencies?
- Fig.3: Could you project the individual components (DCB/fermi function/asymmetric gauss) to the fit? And change the line color to something other than black?
- l.155 you claim there is lack of knowledge of the signal kinematics, hence you integrate over the full efficiency dalitz plane. Are the MC decay models in BcVegPy not sufficient?
Is this the ‘modeling’ uncertainty in the table? It seems to be one of the dominant sources.
Cheers,
Jacco
Hi Niels,
Here are mine.
Physics: you use two samples and hence only half of the data for
training. Could you have gained more with n-folding?
L.138: do you believe these two acceptances within the
uncertainties you give? You then re-use these statistical
uncertainties as systematic. I am sure Pythia gets the \Bc/\Bu
production ratios more wrong than that. Have you calibrated to the
\Bc production paper? There should be a systematic coming from
this calibration.
First paragraph: lacks a bit of structure. It's a collection of
facts, but the reader is wondering what is relevant and how it's
connected to what you measure.
L.2: spurious space before footnote. Move footnote to L.66, where
you need it.
Fig.1: extracted -> determined.
L.79: events -> candidates
L.91 and elsewhere : Fig.~\ref{...}
L.110: spurious !
L.122: each candidate, depending on its location in the ...
L.126: I think <a> is more commeon to mean average than
\overline{a}. Or just write "average of ... on the ROI". Generally
there's a lot of maths that could be turned into words.
L.140-144: This collection of numbers is somewhat boring. Is it
needed?
Systematics : you should explain in words how these numbers are
obtained. Maybe Section 5 and 6 could be merged, as you talk about
corrections in both.
Table 1: 3 -> 3.0.
L.167: @ -> at
[2] $B_c$
Cheers,
Patrick
On 05/02/16 11:07, Niels Tuning wrote:
Dear all,
Please send me your comments by Wednesday morning.
(I attach already my comments, with Wouters coments on the J/psi
constraints already added.).
My main points are below; let me know if you know the answers
already...
Cheers, Niels
General
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* Given the similarities with the Bc->KKpi analysis, was it
considered
to merge the two analysis in one paper?
Questions
---------
1) L.11 Is there a paper you can refer to concerning the
sensitivity to the Beyond the Standard Model physics?
2) L.70/71 We do not understand what the different production
fractions
have to do with the fiducial cuts?
3) L.167 We tried to get a back-of-the-envelop limit:
if you measure 0 events, then the upper limit is ~4 events?
Then we get the limit : (eff_u/eff_c)*(4/1644)*BR(B+) = 6 x 10^-9,
rather than 3.6 x 10^-8 ?
4) L.167 Did you use the J/psi mass constraint and/or known J/psi
lineshape to achieve optimal sensitivity in the Rp^J/psi limit?
5) Fig.5 Why would you plot p-values for negative Rp values ?
On Fri, 29 Jan 2016, Tjeerd Ketel wrote:
Dear all,
We have a paper for Nikhef to comment on.
Please volunteer to introduce it.
We may discuss it after Vasileios' presentation
on Friday 5 February.
Best regards,
Tjeerd
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 16:07:00 +0000
From: George Lafferty <george.lafferty@manchester.ac.uk>
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Subject: First circulation of publication draft for
PAPER-2016-001,
Search for $B_c$ decays to the $p \bar{p}\pi$ final state
Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 17:08:36 +0100
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Dear Colleagues,
A draft paper is available for your comments:
Title : Search for $B_c$ decays to the $p \bar{p}\pi$
final state
Journal : PLB
Contact authors : Adlene_Hicheur
Reviewers : Jibo_He (chair),
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EB reviewer : Brian_Meadows
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Analysis note : ANA-2015-035
Deadline : 12-Feb-2016
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Link : https://cds.cern.ch/record/2127555
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Twiki :
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