H Maarten,
In spite of the CONF being dead I think we should still comment and also make textual suggestions. The CONF will be the basis of the paper, so whatever is done now does not need fixing later.
Here are my comments
Dear Simone, Francesco, Marie-Hélène,
      
      Congratulations for this important result and the breakthrough in
      getting R_jpsi right. 
      
      Do we understand right that adding the two bins we get a 4.7 sigma
      evidence for New Physics? If so this is not a test of LU, this is
      evidence of LU. Adding uncertainties up very conservatively we get
      4.2 sigma including RK. This is too serious business for a CONF.
      
      Below are the detailed comments.
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      We apply the same level of pedantry as for a paper as we consider
      to be a 0th draft of the paper.
      
      Please note that questions asked imply something is not clear in
      the draft and therefore please consider a clarification in the
      paper.
      
      Physics:
      L.245: This procedure can cause biases if this fraction of 1-2% is
      not identical for all your four samples. See
      https://arxiv.org/abs/1703.01128. A systematic uncertainty must be
      assigned (and will be small).
      L.292: It is not clear why you add Lb backgrounds in the J/psi
      modes but not in the NR modes. The Lb->pKmumu decay is
      observed.
      Table 3: The extremely large corrections for L0H need a sentence
      of explanation. Also, your systematics are essentially the
      uncertainties on these correction factors. It would be nice to
      quote them here.
      Section 9 is poorly written and hard to understand. You give a
      name to systematic uncertainties an explain how you got them but
      not not say which effect you try to catch. That's very critical
      for this analysis to be understood. For instance the first
      sentence of the simulation correction item is totally mysterious.
      Relative efficiency to what? Why would unweighted events take into
      account simulation statistics?
      L.362: "expected" sounds like wishful thinking. Do they or do they
      not?
      L.364: It is not clear what this is supposed to catch. Why is that
      not correlated?
      10.2: Why is the \psitwos cross-check not reported?
      
      General:
       - Consistently use \mumu, \epem and \ellell. Sometimes you have
      charges, sometimes not.
       - Sec. 9: it would be useful if the correlated and uncorrelated
      uncertainties were grouped together.
      
      Line-by-line:
      Abstract: please add some space around the + and - or the
      asymmetric errors. Systematics -> systematic. Correlated
      between what?
      footnote: ^{\rm th}$
      L.11: no colon before equations
      L.20: suggest "At \epem collider operating ... resonance, the
      ratios... " to make clear what's consistent.
      L.29: as being -> as it is (or we do not understand the
      sentence)
      L.34: and K* 
      L.46: K* meson
      Fig.1: the diagrams could be made more pretty.
      Eq.2: is that \decay{\Bz}{\Kstarz\mumu} used in indices? The
      spaces around the arrows seem small.
      L.57: log-enhanced is jargon.
      Table 1: State-of-the-art -> Recent. No bold font in title
      line.
      L.105: "quasi-identical from a production point-of-view": what
      does this mean?
      L.106: what is the subject of "has"?
      L.112: "cell as that of the lepton"
      L.115: upstream -> such (or photons emitted upstream of the
      magnet)
      L.133: events -> signal
      L.135: events -> candidates
      L.135: also selected if triggered using ... (now this
      grammatically means the CALO and TIS efficiencies are 100%)
      L.157: following -> second (we were expecting something to
      come, explaining "following")
      L.162: events -> decays. Statistics -> data samples.
      L.171: \bquark hadrons
      L.187: add charges in Kpi
      L.192: best is undefined LHCb jargon
      L.207: "chosen to go as low as": what do you mean? We suggest "For
      this reason, the
      q^2 interval used to select B->J/psiK* candidates is [6.0,
      11.0] GeV2/c4".
      L.228: kinematic distributions (?) 
      L.237: events -> candidates
      Fig.2: the one -> that
      L.258: paper -> note
      Sec.7: use \boldmath
      L.293: \Km{}\pip
      L.318: You need to explain what K1 and K2 decay to in your
      simulation.
      L.333: events -> decays
      L.334: effect of the trigger requirements
      Fig.3: It seems some bins are outside the -5,+5sigma range for the
      pull plot.
      Sec 9: Do not use itemize to emulate description.
      L.366: remove events
      L.387: remove "out"
      L.398: uncorrelated between what?
      L.412: \B factories. But you called them otherwise in L.20. Also
      Fig.6.
      Fig.5: The labels are much too small. Are the curves without
      systematics useful? And if so, are these without any systematic as
      indicated or just without correlated systematics?
      Fig.6: align labels at end of axis as in other plots.
      [1] Kr\"uger
      [11] collaboration
      [14] Why not 2016?
      [39] does "no. 1" convey any information?
      Remove p.21
      Fig.8: labels and legend too small.
      Table 6: in percent
      
      Cheers,
      
      Patrick
      
      
      
      
      
    
    
Dear Maarten,
Here are my comments on the RK* note:
l. 46) Could you add that lepton universality holds to 0.1%, as BF( J/psi -> e+e-) / BF( J/psi ->mu+mu-) = 1.0016+-0.0031 ?
Table 1: the theoretical uncertainties and their central values vary quite a bit, but in the conclusion only the predictions from [19-21] are used for comparison. Would it not be better to take an average with the uncertainty given by the average absolute deviation? This gives me r_low_q^2 = 0.9189 +- 0.0191, r_mid_q^2 = 0.9977 +- 0.0015.
l. 109) bremsstrahlung radiation -> bremsstrahlung
l. 139) channels channels -> channels
l. 215) Are these background samples based on data candidates?
l. 246) viceversa -> vice versa
l. 296) Should the Bs mean value not be given by the Bd mean shifted by the PDG mass difference? Otherwise the ~5 MeV shift upwards of the Bd and Bs means is not taken into account for the Bs.
l. 362) Have you performed any checks to test this?
Table 4: the fit uncertainty seems to be not included in the total systematic. Does this mean the plots and significance estimates also did not include the systematic uncertainty for the fit?
l. 413) Is there a place in the note were I can read from a plot or can I compute by hand a rough estimate of the significance? Given the numbers in the note I would estimate a significance of 3.05 (3.12) sigma for the low (mid) q^2 bin, while we get 2.7 (3.1).
l. 420) Could you give a bit of information on which systematics are included in the R_Jpsi ratio, and how much they contribute?
Cheers,
Mick
Op 12/03/17 om 17:03 schreef Patrick Koppenburg:
Hi again,
Maarten kindly agreed to collect comments. Please send them by Thursday.
Thanks
Patrick
On 12/03/17 14:16, Patrick Koppenburg wrote:
Hi all,
We've been lucky. The CONF note about K*ll is assigned to us. It's likely to be the most discussed result of the year. Please read asap as the deadline is quite close. I'll make sure we have a volunteer to gather comments.
Cheers,
Patrick
Patrick Koppenburg, Nikhef
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Objet : Conference report circulation: CONF-2017-003, Lepton universality test with $B^0\to K^{*0} \ell^+ \ell^-$ decays
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Dear colleagues,
A conference report is available for your comments:
Title: Lepton universality test with $B^0\to K^{*0} \ell^+ \ell^-$ decays
Contact authors: Simone_Bifani, Francesco_Polci, Marie-Helene_Schune
Reviewers: Vladimir_Gligorov (chair), Rafael_Silva_Coutinho, Franco_Bedeschi (EB)
Analysis note: ANA-2015-016
Deadline: 17-Mar-2017
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