Hi all,

As I am always associated with statistics, perhaps I should give it a try ... The 4th would be fine with me.

Greetings,

-- Gerco

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On 26 feb. 2014, at 17:41, Tjeerd Ketel tjeerd@nikhef.nl wrote:

Dear all,

I am trying to get a room with Vidyo for Friday 7 March, which may be less suited because of the Topical Lectures 5-7/3. Another option could be Tuesday morning 4 March.

If the "someone with a taste for stats" can already make up his mind about 4 ot 7 March I would be happy to know.

Best regards, Tjeerd

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On Wed, 26 Feb 2014, Patrick Koppenburg wrote:

Hi all, A paper for us. It poses some non trivial questions about statistics and how to best represent the results. Someone with a taste for stats would be very welcome to present it to the group and collect the comments. Cheers, Patrick -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: First circulation of publication draft for PAPER-2014-007, Angular analysis of charged and neutral $B \to K \mu^+ \mu^-$ decays Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 09:34:45 +0100 From: Rolf Oldeman rudolf.oldeman@cern.ch To: lhcb-general (LHCb General mailing list) lhcb-general@cern.ch Correction: the deadline has been moved back by one day to March 10. This is meant to give one more day of scrutiny of the collaboration comments before approving the preliminary result for presentation at Moriond. Cheers, Rolf On Feb 25, 2014, at 11:44 PM, Rudolf Oldeman wrote:

 Dear Colleagues,

A paper is available for your comments: Title : Angular analysis of charged and neutral $B \to K \mu^+ \mu^-$ decays Journal : JHEP Contact authors : Patrick Owen, Tom Blake Reviewers : Xabier Cid Vidal (chair), Bernardo Adeva EB reviewer : Diego Tonelli EB readers : Frederic Machefert, Val Gibson Analysis note : ANA-2013-030 Deadline : 10-Mar-2014 e-group : lhcb-paper-2014-007-reviewers Link : http://cds.cern.ch/record/1664342 Authors : LHCb Twiki : https://twiki.cern.ch/twiki/bin/viewauth/LHCbPhysics/BuToKMuMu The following institutes are requested to make institutional comments: Frascati, Italy MPIK, Heidelberg, Germany LAPP, Annecy-Le-Vieux, France Tsinghua University, China EPFL, Lausanne, Switzerland NIKHEF, Netherlands Please send any comments via the CDS system. It is the responsibility of the contact authors to provide replies on all comments made. Subsequent modification to the publication are made in consultation with the reviewers and during the EB reading. Following this, there will be a final meeting of the editorial board with contact authors and reviewers present where final decisions are made. As the last step a short presentation is given to the collaboration and the paper is sent for publication. You can find all paper and conference report drafts open for comments via the EB web-page, by clicking on Current Drafts. http://lhcb.web.cern.ch/lhcb/lhcb_page/collaboration/organization/editorial_... rd/default.html Regards, Rolf Oldeman

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Hi Gerco,

Thanks for compiling this list. I could not find much about the email discussion we had after the meeting about the plugin method. Maybe I missed it since I did not carefully went through all comments.

The general feeling (Diego and I) was that the plugin method should be described better. In particular since there seem to be multiple methods. And also since what they describe in the ANA note (l.439-446) seems to indicate that they do something completely different compared to the plugin method that is described in reference that they give in the paper. In fact, we are worried that they simply fixed the values of the nuisance parameters to their best fit value. And assigned a systematic uncertainty to the spread observed after varying the nuisance parameters within some arbitrary large spread. If that is the case, they should not reference this plugin paper.

Cheers, Jeroen

On 6 Mar, 2014, at 21:29 pm, Gerco Onderwater <onderwater@kvi.nlmailto:onderwater@kvi.nl> wrote:

Dear all,

Attached is the list of comments I have collected. Please check that in condensing them, I haven’t misinterpreted your comments. Without objection by tomorrow 17:00, I’ll submit them to CDS. Suggestions for compression are welcome as well.

Greetings,

Gerco

On 26 Feb 2014, at 09:43, Patrick Koppenburg <Patrick.Koppenburg@cern.chmailto:Patrick.Koppenburg@cern.ch> wrote:

Hi all,

A paper for us. It poses some non trivial questions about statistics and how to best represent the results. Someone with a taste for stats would be very welcome to present it to the group and collect the comments.

Cheers,

Patrick

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: First circulation of publication draft for PAPER-2014-007, Angular analysis of charged and neutral $B \to K \mu^+ \mu^-$ decays Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 09:34:45 +0100 From: Rolf Oldeman rudolf.oldeman@cern.chmailto:rudolf.oldeman@cern.ch To: lhcb-general (LHCb General mailing list) lhcb-general@cern.chmailto:lhcb-general@cern.ch

Correction: the deadline has been moved back by one day to March 10. This is meant to give one more day of scrutiny of the collaboration comments before approving the preliminary result for presentation at Moriond. Cheers, Rolf

On Feb 25, 2014, at 11:44 PM, Rudolf Oldeman wrote:

Dear Colleagues,

A paper is available for your comments:

Title : Angular analysis of charged and neutral $B \to K \mu^+ \mu^-$ decays

Journal : JHEP Contact authors : Patrick Owen, Tom Blake Reviewers : Xabier Cid Vidal (chair), Bernardo Adeva EB reviewer : Diego Tonelli EB readers : Frederic Machefert, Val Gibson Analysis note : ANA-2013-030 Deadline : 10-Mar-2014 e-group : lhcb-paper-2014-007-reviewers Link : http://cds.cern.ch/record/1664342 Authors : LHCb Twiki : https://twiki.cern.ch/twiki/bin/viewauth/LHCbPhysics/BuToKMuMu

The following institutes are requested to make institutional comments: Frascati, Italy MPIK, Heidelberg, Germany LAPP, Annecy-Le-Vieux, France Tsinghua University, China EPFL, Lausanne, Switzerland NIKHEF, Netherlands

Please send any comments via the CDS system. It is the responsibility of the contact authors to provide replies on all comments made. Subsequent modification to the publication are made in consultation with the reviewers and during the EB reading. Following this, there will be a final meeting of the editorial board with contact authors and reviewers present where final decisions are made. As the last step a short presentation is given to the collaboration and the paper is sent for publication.

You can find all paper and conference report drafts open for comments via the EB web-page, by clicking on Current Drafts.

http://lhcb.web.cern.ch/lhcb/lhcb_page/collaboration/organization/editorial_...

Regards, Rolf Oldeman

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