[Bfys-physics] Fwd: First circulation of publication draft for PAPER-2017-017, Measurement of $\mathcal{B}(B^0 \to D^{\ast-} \tau^+ \nu_{\tau})$ and the ratio of the branching fractions $\mathcal{B}(B^0 \to D^{\ast-} \tau^+ \nu_{\tau})$/$\mathcal{B}(B^0 \to D^{\ast-} \mu^...
Hi all,
So it seems we are getting all exciting papers. The hadronic R_D* paper is out and assigned to us. Please read it all. I'll volunteer someone to collect comments.
Cheers,
Patrick
-------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: First circulation of publication draft for PAPER-2017-017, Measurement of $\mathcal{B}(B^0 \to D^{\ast-} \tau^+ \nu_{\tau})$ and the ratio of the branching fractions $\mathcal{B}(B^0 \to D^{\ast-} \tau^+ \nu_{\tau})$/$\mathcal{B}(B^0 \to D^{\ast-} \mu^... Date: Tue, 23 May 2017 17:46:52 +0000 From: fergus.wilson@stfc.ac.uk To: lhcb-general@cern.ch CC: LHCb-PAPER-2017-017-reviewers@cern.ch
Dear Colleagues,
A draft paper is available for your comments. The CWR 1 period has been shortened to end Friday 2nd June so please contribute comments as soon as possible.
Team leaders, verify the author list and check for reading obligations of your group!
Title : Measurement of $\mathcal{B}(B^0 \to D^{\ast-} \tau^+ \nu_{\tau})$ and the ratio of the branching fractions $\mathcal{B}(B^0 \to D^{\ast-} \tau^+ \nu_{\tau})$/$\mathcal{B}(B^0 \to D^{\ast-} \mu^+ \nu_{\mu})$ with three-prong $\tau$ decays
Journal : PRL Contact authors : Guy_Wormser, Federico_Betti, Benedetto_Siddi, Antonio_Romero, Victor_Renaudin, Concezio_Bozzi Reviewers : Konstantinos_Petridis (chair), Michael_McCann, Marcello_Rotondo EB reviewer : Roberta_Santacesaria EB readers : Brian_Meadows, Simon_Eidelman Analysis note : ANA-2015-045 Deadline : 2-Jun-2017 e-group : lhcb-paper-2017-017-reviewers Link : https://cds.cern.ch/record/2265707 Authors : LHCb Twiki : https://twiki.cern.ch/twiki/bin/view/LHCbPhysics/BToXTauNu3Prong
The following institutes are requested to make institutional comments: EPFL__Lausanne__Switzerland Zurich__Switzerland Ruprecht-Karls-Universitaet_Heidelberg__Germany NIKHEF__Amsterdam__The_Netherlands Frascati__Italy Manchester__United_Kingdom
Please send any comments via the CDS system. It is the responsibility of the contact authors to provide replies to all comments made. Subsequent modifications to the draft will be made in consultation with the reviewers and during the EB reading. Following this, there will be a final meeting of the editorial board, with contact authors and reviewers present, when final decisions will be made. As the last step, the collaboration will be given a final opportunity to comment during a 'silent approval' period.
You can find all paper and conference report drafts open for comments via the EB web-page, by clicking on Current Drafts:
http://lhcb.web.cern.ch/lhcb/lhcb_page/collaboration/organization/editorial_...
Best regards, Fergus
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fergus Wilson, PPD, Rutherford Appleton Laboratory, Harwell Campus, Didcot, Oxon, OX11 0QX, UK. Tel: +44-(0)1235 445259 Fax: +44-(0)1235 445672 CERN Tel: +41-22 76 77379 Skype: ferguswilson5259
Hi Greg,
Here are my comments on the RD* hadronic paper.
We discussed the general comments (paper state, publication strategy etc.) yesterday, so I leave it at specific physics or text comments.
Physics + presentational comments:
l. 211) Does your systematic not include an uncertainty on the hadronic decay of the tau to three pions, which should be mentioned here? Figure 3) Is the bottom left fit so bad or is the template uncertainty large enough to make it consistent with data? In the second case, the template uncertainty should be plotted. In general, in the black and white figures it is not possible to separate some components by eye. l. 216) I would propose we mention the pure experimental result (B->D* tau (-> 3pi nu) nu/ B->D* 3 pi ) as well, so it can be improved later with external input. l. 259) This is the same central value as your result, could you check which is which?
Text comments:
l. 41) Dynamic, kinematic and topological -> remove 'dynamic' l. 44) This sentence about the fit is long and confusing, split up into fit strategy and way to obtain fit templates. l. 132) The structure of the selection steps is very unclear. For example in this sentence, do you use multiple BDTs or is the sentence about MVA's and BDT's just repeated? l. 205) Is this correction related to a later correction factor? Maybe we should just mention which corrections are performed, not the exact numbers, and then show the systematic from corrections in the table with systematics? Also, this sentence is long and unstructured, so it should be rewritten. l. 246) Just to check: for this 3% bias, the uncertainty is 1.3%, as included in the systematics table? It should be mentioned in that case as a single result, so people do not have to do this combination of information on their own.
Cheers,
Mick
Op 23/05/17 om 21:19 schreef Patrick Koppenburg:
Hi all,
So it seems we are getting all exciting papers. The hadronic R_D* paper is out and assigned to us. Please read it all. I'll volunteer someone to collect comments.
Cheers,
Patrick
-------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: First circulation of publication draft for PAPER-2017-017, Measurement of $\mathcal{B}(B^0 \to D^{\ast-} \tau^+ \nu_{\tau})$ and the ratio of the branching fractions $\mathcal{B}(B^0 \to D^{\ast-} \tau^+ \nu_{\tau})$/$\mathcal{B}(B^0 \to D^{\ast-} \mu^... Date: Tue, 23 May 2017 17:46:52 +0000 From: fergus.wilson@stfc.ac.uk To: lhcb-general@cern.ch CC: LHCb-PAPER-2017-017-reviewers@cern.ch
Dear Colleagues,
A draft paper is available for your comments. The CWR 1 period has been shortened to end Friday 2nd June so please contribute comments as soon as possible.
Team leaders, verify the author list and check for reading obligations of your group!
Title : Measurement of $\mathcal{B}(B^0 \to D^{\ast-} \tau^+ \nu_{\tau})$ and the ratio of the branching fractions $\mathcal{B}(B^0 \to D^{\ast-} \tau^+ \nu_{\tau})$/$\mathcal{B}(B^0 \to D^{\ast-} \mu^+ \nu_{\mu})$ with three-prong $\tau$ decays
Journal : PRL Contact authors : Guy_Wormser, Federico_Betti, Benedetto_Siddi, Antonio_Romero, Victor_Renaudin, Concezio_Bozzi Reviewers : Konstantinos_Petridis (chair), Michael_McCann, Marcello_Rotondo EB reviewer : Roberta_Santacesaria EB readers : Brian_Meadows, Simon_Eidelman Analysis note : ANA-2015-045 Deadline : 2-Jun-2017 e-group : lhcb-paper-2017-017-reviewers Link :https://cds.cern.ch/record/2265707 Authors : LHCb Twiki :https://twiki.cern.ch/twiki/bin/view/LHCbPhysics/BToXTauNu3Prong
The following institutes are requested to make institutional comments: EPFL__Lausanne__Switzerland Zurich__Switzerland Ruprecht-Karls-Universitaet_Heidelberg__Germany NIKHEF__Amsterdam__The_Netherlands Frascati__Italy Manchester__United_Kingdom
Please send any comments via the CDS system. It is the responsibility of the contact authors to provide replies to all comments made. Subsequent modifications to the draft will be made in consultation with the reviewers and during the EB reading. Following this, there will be a final meeting of the editorial board, with contact authors and reviewers present, when final decisions will be made. As the last step, the collaboration will be given a final opportunity to comment during a 'silent approval' period.
You can find all paper and conference report drafts open for comments via the EB web-page, by clicking on Current Drafts:
http://lhcb.web.cern.ch/lhcb/lhcb_page/collaboration/organization/editorial_...
Best regards, Fergus
Fergus Wilson, PPD, Rutherford Appleton Laboratory, Harwell Campus, Didcot, Oxon, OX11 0QX, UK. Tel: +44-(0)1235 445259 Fax: +44-(0)1235 445672 CERN Tel: +41-22 76 77379 Skype: ferguswilson5259
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Dear All
Thanks for the comments - I've submitted everything to:
https://cds.cern.ch/record/2267029
If anyone would still like to make further comments then I urge you to do so.
Thanks, Greg
On 05/31/2017 05:18 PM, Mick Mulder wrote:
Hi Greg,
Here are my comments on the RD* hadronic paper.
We discussed the general comments (paper state, publication strategy etc.) yesterday, so I leave it at specific physics or text comments.
Physics + presentational comments:
l. 211) Does your systematic not include an uncertainty on the hadronic decay of the tau to three pions, which should be mentioned here? Figure 3) Is the bottom left fit so bad or is the template uncertainty large enough to make it consistent with data? In the second case, the template uncertainty should be plotted. In general, in the black and white figures it is not possible to separate some components by eye. l. 216) I would propose we mention the pure experimental result (B->D* tau (-> 3pi nu) nu/ B->D* 3 pi ) as well, so it can be improved later with external input. l. 259) This is the same central value as your result, could you check which is which?
Text comments:
l. 41) Dynamic, kinematic and topological -> remove 'dynamic' l. 44) This sentence about the fit is long and confusing, split up into fit strategy and way to obtain fit templates. l. 132) The structure of the selection steps is very unclear. For example in this sentence, do you use multiple BDTs or is the sentence about MVA's and BDT's just repeated? l. 205) Is this correction related to a later correction factor? Maybe we should just mention which corrections are performed, not the exact numbers, and then show the systematic from corrections in the table with systematics? Also, this sentence is long and unstructured, so it should be rewritten. l. 246) Just to check: for this 3% bias, the uncertainty is 1.3%, as included in the systematics table? It should be mentioned in that case as a single result, so people do not have to do this combination of information on their own.
Cheers,
Mick
Op 23/05/17 om 21:19 schreef Patrick Koppenburg:
Hi all,
So it seems we are getting all exciting papers. The hadronic R_D* paper is out and assigned to us. Please read it all. I'll volunteer someone to collect comments.
Cheers,
Patrick
-------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: First circulation of publication draft for PAPER-2017-017, Measurement of $\mathcal{B}(B^0 \to D^{\ast-} \tau^+ \nu_{\tau})$ and the ratio of the branching fractions $\mathcal{B}(B^0 \to D^{\ast-} \tau^+ \nu_{\tau})$/$\mathcal{B}(B^0 \to D^{\ast-} \mu^... Date: Tue, 23 May 2017 17:46:52 +0000 From: fergus.wilson@stfc.ac.uk To: lhcb-general@cern.ch CC: LHCb-PAPER-2017-017-reviewers@cern.ch
Dear Colleagues,
A draft paper is available for your comments. The CWR 1 period has been shortened to end Friday 2nd June so please contribute comments as soon as possible.
Team leaders, verify the author list and check for reading obligations of your group!
Title : Measurement of $\mathcal{B}(B^0 \to D^{\ast-} \tau^+ \nu_{\tau})$ and the ratio of the branching fractions $\mathcal{B}(B^0 \to D^{\ast-} \tau^+ \nu_{\tau})$/$\mathcal{B}(B^0 \to D^{\ast-} \mu^+ \nu_{\mu})$ with three-prong $\tau$ decays
Journal : PRL Contact authors : Guy_Wormser, Federico_Betti, Benedetto_Siddi, Antonio_Romero, Victor_Renaudin, Concezio_Bozzi Reviewers : Konstantinos_Petridis (chair), Michael_McCann, Marcello_Rotondo EB reviewer : Roberta_Santacesaria EB readers : Brian_Meadows, Simon_Eidelman Analysis note : ANA-2015-045 Deadline : 2-Jun-2017 e-group : lhcb-paper-2017-017-reviewers Link :https://cds.cern.ch/record/2265707 Authors : LHCb Twiki :https://twiki.cern.ch/twiki/bin/view/LHCbPhysics/BToXTauNu3Prong
The following institutes are requested to make institutional comments: EPFL__Lausanne__Switzerland Zurich__Switzerland Ruprecht-Karls-Universitaet_Heidelberg__Germany NIKHEF__Amsterdam__The_Netherlands Frascati__Italy Manchester__United_Kingdom
Please send any comments via the CDS system. It is the responsibility of the contact authors to provide replies to all comments made. Subsequent modifications to the draft will be made in consultation with the reviewers and during the EB reading. Following this, there will be a final meeting of the editorial board, with contact authors and reviewers present, when final decisions will be made. As the last step, the collaboration will be given a final opportunity to comment during a 'silent approval' period.
You can find all paper and conference report drafts open for comments via the EB web-page, by clicking on Current Drafts:
http://lhcb.web.cern.ch/lhcb/lhcb_page/collaboration/organization/editorial_...
Best regards, Fergus
Fergus Wilson, PPD, Rutherford Appleton Laboratory, Harwell Campus, Didcot, Oxon, OX11 0QX, UK. Tel: +44-(0)1235 445259 Fax: +44-(0)1235 445672 CERN Tel: +41-22 76 77379 Skype: ferguswilson5259
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Dear All
Apologies for the slow update. The proponents have posted two responses to our comments, one to our general comments, one to editorial suggestions
https://cds.cern.ch/record/2267391?ln=en
https://cds.cern.ch/record/2267470?ln=en
Most editorial comments have been implemented or superseded, they haven't done much in response to our general comments.
Cheers, Greg
On 06/01/2017 03:17 PM, Greg wrote:
Dear All
Thanks for the comments - I've submitted everything to:
https://cds.cern.ch/record/2267029
If anyone would still like to make further comments then I urge you to do so.
Thanks, Greg
On 05/31/2017 05:18 PM, Mick Mulder wrote:
Hi Greg,
Here are my comments on the RD* hadronic paper.
We discussed the general comments (paper state, publication strategy etc.) yesterday, so I leave it at specific physics or text comments.
Physics + presentational comments:
l. 211) Does your systematic not include an uncertainty on the hadronic decay of the tau to three pions, which should be mentioned here? Figure 3) Is the bottom left fit so bad or is the template uncertainty large enough to make it consistent with data? In the second case, the template uncertainty should be plotted. In general, in the black and white figures it is not possible to separate some components by eye. l. 216) I would propose we mention the pure experimental result (B->D* tau (-> 3pi nu) nu/ B->D* 3 pi ) as well, so it can be improved later with external input. l. 259) This is the same central value as your result, could you check which is which?
Text comments:
l. 41) Dynamic, kinematic and topological -> remove 'dynamic' l. 44) This sentence about the fit is long and confusing, split up into fit strategy and way to obtain fit templates. l. 132) The structure of the selection steps is very unclear. For example in this sentence, do you use multiple BDTs or is the sentence about MVA's and BDT's just repeated? l. 205) Is this correction related to a later correction factor? Maybe we should just mention which corrections are performed, not the exact numbers, and then show the systematic from corrections in the table with systematics? Also, this sentence is long and unstructured, so it should be rewritten. l. 246) Just to check: for this 3% bias, the uncertainty is 1.3%, as included in the systematics table? It should be mentioned in that case as a single result, so people do not have to do this combination of information on their own.
Cheers,
Mick
Op 23/05/17 om 21:19 schreef Patrick Koppenburg:
Hi all,
So it seems we are getting all exciting papers. The hadronic R_D* paper is out and assigned to us. Please read it all. I'll volunteer someone to collect comments.
Cheers,
Patrick
-------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: First circulation of publication draft for PAPER-2017-017, Measurement of $\mathcal{B}(B^0 \to D^{\ast-} \tau^+ \nu_{\tau})$ and the ratio of the branching fractions $\mathcal{B}(B^0 \to D^{\ast-} \tau^+ \nu_{\tau})$/$\mathcal{B}(B^0 \to D^{\ast-} \mu^... Date: Tue, 23 May 2017 17:46:52 +0000 From: fergus.wilson@stfc.ac.uk To: lhcb-general@cern.ch CC: LHCb-PAPER-2017-017-reviewers@cern.ch
Dear Colleagues,
A draft paper is available for your comments. The CWR 1 period has been shortened to end Friday 2nd June so please contribute comments as soon as possible.
Team leaders, verify the author list and check for reading obligations of your group!
Title : Measurement of $\mathcal{B}(B^0 \to D^{\ast-} \tau^+ \nu_{\tau})$ and the ratio of the branching fractions $\mathcal{B}(B^0 \to D^{\ast-} \tau^+ \nu_{\tau})$/$\mathcal{B}(B^0 \to D^{\ast-} \mu^+ \nu_{\mu})$ with three-prong $\tau$ decays
Journal : PRL Contact authors : Guy_Wormser, Federico_Betti, Benedetto_Siddi, Antonio_Romero, Victor_Renaudin, Concezio_Bozzi Reviewers : Konstantinos_Petridis (chair), Michael_McCann, Marcello_Rotondo EB reviewer : Roberta_Santacesaria EB readers : Brian_Meadows, Simon_Eidelman Analysis note : ANA-2015-045 Deadline : 2-Jun-2017 e-group : lhcb-paper-2017-017-reviewers Link :https://cds.cern.ch/record/2265707 Authors : LHCb Twiki :https://twiki.cern.ch/twiki/bin/view/LHCbPhysics/BToXTauNu3Prong
The following institutes are requested to make institutional comments: EPFL__Lausanne__Switzerland Zurich__Switzerland Ruprecht-Karls-Universitaet_Heidelberg__Germany NIKHEF__Amsterdam__The_Netherlands Frascati__Italy Manchester__United_Kingdom
Please send any comments via the CDS system. It is the responsibility of the contact authors to provide replies to all comments made. Subsequent modifications to the draft will be made in consultation with the reviewers and during the EB reading. Following this, there will be a final meeting of the editorial board, with contact authors and reviewers present, when final decisions will be made. As the last step, the collaboration will be given a final opportunity to comment during a 'silent approval' period.
You can find all paper and conference report drafts open for comments via the EB web-page, by clicking on Current Drafts:
http://lhcb.web.cern.ch/lhcb/lhcb_page/collaboration/organization/editorial_...
Best regards, Fergus
Fergus Wilson, PPD, Rutherford Appleton Laboratory, Harwell Campus, Didcot, Oxon, OX11 0QX, UK. Tel: +44-(0)1235 445259 Fax: +44-(0)1235 445672 CERN Tel: +41-22 76 77379 Skype: ferguswilson5259
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Hi all,
During the outing Patrick announced his concern with the title of this measurement to the outside world. I agree with him that this is *not* a measurement of R(D*) at LHCb, but a measurement of the tau/3pi BF. This comment was put aside by the authors as basically “R(D*) is the most interesting observable” - although I would argue this is not an observable in *our* presented data.
What happens in these cases where institutes disagree with the authors? Will the PC (or the SP in case of prominent analyses) decide?
Cheers, Laurent
On 08 Jun 2017, at 09:59, Greg gciezare@nikhef.nl wrote:
Dear All
Apologies for the slow update. The proponents have posted two responses to our comments, one to our general comments, one to editorial suggestions https://cds.cern.ch/record/2267391?ln=en
https://cds.cern.ch/record/2267470?ln=en Most editorial comments have been implemented or superseded, they haven't done much in response to our general comments.
Cheers, Greg
On 06/01/2017 03:17 PM, Greg wrote:
Dear All
Thanks for the comments - I've submitted everything to:
https://cds.cern.ch/record/2267029
If anyone would still like to make further comments then I urge you to do so.
Thanks, Greg
On 05/31/2017 05:18 PM, Mick Mulder wrote:
Hi Greg,
Here are my comments on the RD* hadronic paper.
We discussed the general comments (paper state, publication strategy etc.) yesterday, so I leave it at specific physics or text comments. Physics + presentational comments: l. 211) Does your systematic not include an uncertainty on the hadronic decay of the tau to three pions, which should be mentioned here? Figure 3) Is the bottom left fit so bad or is the template uncertainty large enough to make it consistent with data? In the second case, the template uncertainty should be plotted. In general, in the black and white figures it is not possible to separate some components by eye. l. 216) I would propose we mention the pure experimental result (B->D* tau (-> 3pi nu) nu/ B->D* 3 pi ) as well, so it can be improved later with external input. l. 259) This is the same central value as your result, could you check which is which? Text comments:
l. 41) Dynamic, kinematic and topological -> remove 'dynamic' l. 44) This sentence about the fit is long and confusing, split up into fit strategy and way to obtain fit templates. l. 132) The structure of the selection steps is very unclear. For example in this sentence, do you use multiple BDTs or is the sentence about MVA's and BDT's just repeated? l. 205) Is this correction related to a later correction factor? Maybe we should just mention which corrections are performed, not the exact numbers, and then show the systematic from corrections in the table with systematics? Also, this sentence is long and unstructured, so it should be rewritten. l. 246) Just to check: for this 3% bias, the uncertainty is 1.3%, as included in the systematics table? It should be mentioned in that case as a single result, so people do not have to do this combination of information on their own. Cheers,
Mick
Op 23/05/17 om 21:19 schreef Patrick Koppenburg:
Hi all, So it seems we are getting all exciting papers. The hadronic R_D* paper is out and assigned to us. Please read it all. I'll volunteer someone to collect comments.
Cheers,
Patrick
-------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: First circulation of publication draft for PAPER-2017-017, Measurement of $\mathcal{B}(B^0 \to D^{\ast-} \tau^+ \nu_{\tau})$ and the ratio of the branching fractions $\mathcal{B}(B^0 \to D^{\ast-} \tau^+ \nu_{\tau})$/$\mathcal{B}(B^0 \to D^{\ast-} \mu^... Date: Tue, 23 May 2017 17:46:52 +0000 From: fergus.wilson@stfc.ac.uk To: lhcb-general@cern.ch CC: LHCb-PAPER-2017-017-reviewers@cern.ch
Dear Colleagues,
A draft paper is available for your comments. The CWR 1 period has been shortened to end Friday 2nd June so please contribute comments as soon as possible.
Team leaders, verify the author list and check for reading obligations of your group!
Title : Measurement of $\mathcal{B}(B^0 \to D^{\ast-} \tau^+ \nu_{\tau})$ and the ratio of the branching fractions $\mathcal{B}(B^0 \to D^{\ast-} \tau^+ \nu_{\tau})$/$\mathcal{B}(B^0 \to D^{\ast-} \mu^+ \nu_{\mu})$ with three-prong $\tau$ decays
Journal : PRL Contact authors : Guy_Wormser, Federico_Betti, Benedetto_Siddi, Antonio_Romero, Victor_Renaudin, Concezio_Bozzi Reviewers : Konstantinos_Petridis (chair), Michael_McCann, Marcello_Rotondo EB reviewer : Roberta_Santacesaria EB readers : Brian_Meadows, Simon_Eidelman Analysis note : ANA-2015-045 Deadline : 2-Jun-2017 e-group : lhcb-paper-2017-017-reviewers Link : https://cds.cern.ch/record/2265707
Authors : LHCb Twiki : https://twiki.cern.ch/twiki/bin/view/LHCbPhysics/BToXTauNu3Prong
The following institutes are requested to make institutional comments: EPFL__Lausanne__Switzerland Zurich__Switzerland Ruprecht-Karls-Universitaet_Heidelberg__Germany NIKHEF__Amsterdam__The_Netherlands Frascati__Italy Manchester__United_Kingdom
Please send any comments via the CDS system. It is the responsibility of the contact authors to provide replies to all comments made. Subsequent modifications to the draft will be made in consultation with the reviewers and during the EB reading. Following this, there will be a final meeting of the editorial board, with contact authors and reviewers present, when final decisions will be made. As the last step, the collaboration will be given a final opportunity to comment during a 'silent approval' period.
You can find all paper and conference report drafts open for comments via the EB web-page, by clicking on Current Drafts:
http://lhcb.web.cern.ch/lhcb/lhcb_page/collaboration/organization/editorial_...
Best regards, Fergus
Fergus Wilson, PPD, Rutherford Appleton Laboratory, Harwell Campus, Didcot, Oxon, OX11 0QX, UK. Tel: +44-(0)1235 445259 Fax: +44-(0)1235 445672 CERN Tel: +41-22 76 77379 Skype: ferguswilson5259
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I was thinking that for the title of the paper we could perhaps propose an alternative formulation, which does mention the ratio but avoids the confusing suggestion that it is measured directly.
Something like: Measurement of BF D*tau with 3prong tau decays and determination of the corresponding value of RD*...
Would that make sense? Then they still have their beloved RD* in the title.
On 8 June 2017 at 09:59, Greg gciezare@nikhef.nl wrote:
Dear All
Apologies for the slow update. The proponents have posted two responses to our comments, one to our general comments, one to editorial suggestions
https://cds.cern.ch/record/2267391?ln=en
https://cds.cern.ch/record/2267470?ln=en Most editorial comments have been implemented or superseded, they haven't done much in response to our general comments.
Cheers, Greg
On 06/01/2017 03:17 PM, Greg wrote:
Dear All
Thanks for the comments - I've submitted everything to:
https://cds.cern.ch/record/2267029
If anyone would still like to make further comments then I urge you to do so.
Thanks, Greg
On 05/31/2017 05:18 PM, Mick Mulder wrote:
Hi Greg,
Here are my comments on the RD* hadronic paper.
We discussed the general comments (paper state, publication strategy etc.) yesterday, so I leave it at specific physics or text comments.
Physics + presentational comments: l. 211) Does your systematic not include an uncertainty on the hadronic decay of the tau to three pions, which should be mentioned here? Figure 3) Is the bottom left fit so bad or is the template uncertainty large enough to make it consistent with data? In the second case, the template uncertainty should be plotted. In general, in the black and white figures it is not possible to separate some components by eye. l. 216) I would propose we mention the pure experimental result (B->D* tau (-> 3pi nu) nu/ B->D* 3 pi ) as well, so it can be improved later with external input. l. 259) This is the same central value as your result, could you check which is which?
Text comments: l. 41) Dynamic, kinematic and topological -> remove 'dynamic' l. 44) This sentence about the fit is long and confusing, split up into fit strategy and way to obtain fit templates. l. 132) The structure of the selection steps is very unclear. For example in this sentence, do you use multiple BDTs or is the sentence about MVA's and BDT's just repeated? l. 205) Is this correction related to a later correction factor? Maybe we should just mention which corrections are performed, not the exact numbers, and then show the systematic from corrections in the table with systematics? Also, this sentence is long and unstructured, so it should be rewritten. l. 246) Just to check: for this 3% bias, the uncertainty is 1.3%, as included in the systematics table? It should be mentioned in that case as a single result, so people do not have to do this combination of information on their own.
Cheers,
Mick
Op 23/05/17 om 21:19 schreef Patrick Koppenburg:
Hi all,
So it seems we are getting all exciting papers. The hadronic R_D* paper is out and assigned to us. Please read it all. I'll volunteer someone to collect comments.
Cheers,
Patrick
-------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: First circulation of publication draft for PAPER-2017-017, Measurement of $\mathcal{B}(B^0 \to D^{\ast-} \tau^+ \nu_{\tau})$ and the ratio of the branching fractions $\mathcal{B}(B^0 \to D^{\ast-} \tau^+ \nu_{\tau})$/$\mathcal{B}(B^0 \to D^{\ast-} \mu^... Date: Tue, 23 May 2017 17:46:52 +0000 From: fergus.wilson@stfc.ac.uk To: lhcb-general@cern.ch CC: LHCb-PAPER-2017-017-reviewers@cern.ch
Dear Colleagues,
A draft paper is available for your comments. The CWR 1 period has been shortened to end Friday 2nd June so please contribute comments as soon as possible.
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Title : Measurement of $\mathcal{B}(B^0 \to D^{\ast-} \tau^+ \nu_{\tau})$ and the ratio of the branching fractions $\mathcal{B}(B^0 \to D^{\ast-} \tau^+ \nu_{\tau})$/$\mathcal{B}(B^0 \to D^{\ast-} \mu^+ \nu_{\mu})$ with three-prong $\tau$ decays
Journal : PRL Contact authors : Guy_Wormser, Federico_Betti, Benedetto_Siddi, Antonio_Romero, Victor_Renaudin, Concezio_Bozzi Reviewers : Konstantinos_Petridis (chair), Michael_McCann, Marcello_Rotondo EB reviewer : Roberta_Santacesaria EB readers : Brian_Meadows, Simon_Eidelman Analysis note : ANA-2015-045 Deadline : 2-Jun-2017 e-group : lhcb-paper-2017-017-reviewers Link : https://cds.cern.ch/record/2265707 Authors : LHCb Twiki : https://twiki.cern.ch/twiki/bin/view/LHCbPhysics/BToXTauNu3Prong
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Best regards, Fergus
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